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Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
I don't know if other people have turned these up, but I figured a least a few of you havn't seen them. I have a ton of video I am going thru now, but here is a clip of Stark Reality. Its from the Say Brother television show, of which they were the house band. The end with the promo for the 45? 

Link to the video:
http://www.galacticfractures.com/starkreality.wmv
Like I said, if this is old news, I apologize. But, I definately hadn't seen this footage.
-peeJ
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
it's off the stones throw 101 dvd, no?
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it's off the stones throw 101 dvd, no?
oh really? I don't have that.....I have the raw Say Brother shows. What else is on the dvd? Do they have the other performances of the bands? The Parliments doing "Testify" is amaaaaaaaazing. And so far, the Chambers Brothers blew my mind too.
-pj
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
(tracked down the dvd tracklisting)
They must have just put the one performance of Stark Reality. I have several of the Say Brother videos. There might be other Stark Reality footage that isn't on the dvd, i am not sure as I havn't seen the Stones Throw thing. HOWEVER, the promo for the 45 at the end of the clip i posted is crazy.
Plus, I'll post up the Parliments "Testify" performance that is facemelting. (converting it now).
-pj
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
(edit: posted this at the same time as above)
So, you have access to the Say Brother archives??
This is through your girlfriend who you said works at WG*H?
Crazy.
I used to watch "Say Brother" sometimes when I was a little kid in the mid-70's.
If you can hook up the entire 1st anniversary Parliament show at some point that would be the shit!
Edited by SoulOnIce (Wed May 03 2006 12:02 AM)
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(tracked down the dvd tracklisting)
They must have just put the one performance of Stark Reality. I have several of the Say Brother videos. There might be other Stark Reality footage that isn't on the dvd, i am not sure as I havn't seen the Stones Throw thing. HOWEVER, the promo for the 45 at the end of the clip i posted is crazy.
Plus, I'll post up the Parliments "Testify" performance that is facemelting. (converting it now).
Ah, hoping this isn't too much to ask, but I wouldn't mind seeing that Chambers Brothers clip, as well...:-)
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
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Plus, I'll post up the Parliments "Testify" performance that is facemelting. (converting it now).
-pj
if im not mistaken, this is on youtube.
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Plus, I'll post up the Parliments "Testify" performance that is facemelting. (converting it now).
-pj
if im not mistaken, this is on youtube.

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Plus, I'll post up the Parliments "Testify" performance that is facemelting. (converting it now).
-pj
if im not mistaken, this is on youtube.
It hasn't been on Youtube for a minute. I'd really like to see it again, and if you posted the whole show, my head might just explode. I'd like to see the Chambers Brothers footage too.
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pj4533
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)

Here is the Testify footage.
http://www.galacticfractures.com/testify.wmv
If I post the whole Spring Special showits gonna be huuuuuuuge. I'll see what I can do with sendspace or something. But I am going to the baseball game tomorrow night, so dunno when I can spend time to encode it all.
Also, I have the Gwen Michaels performances with Stark Reality backing her up. And the James Brown Politics episode. The spring special is the only one that has all music.
-pj
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I don't know if other people have turned these up, but I figured a least a few of you havn't seen them. I have a ton of video I am going thru now, but here is a clip of Stark Reality. Its from the Say Brother television show, of which they were the house band. The end with the promo for the 45? 

Link to the video:
http://www.galacticfractures.com/starkreality.wmv
Like I said, if this is old news, I apologize. But, I definately hadn't seen this footage.
-peeJ
unnnnnbelievable. holy shit. this made me...excited to make music.
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
WGBH is sitting on 35 years of Say Brother footage. As far as I know, they refuse to release it for purchase in any form. I have no idea why, in today's climate where every TV show ever broadcast is on its way to reissue (I'm praying for The Equalizer), a public television station in need of constant revenue refuses to pull the trigger on this. Fans of Funkadelic are not getting any younger - just ask an average teenager if they have ever heard a single song from their Westbound albums (also, ask them if they give a shit about the prospect).
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
This is great, PJ, thank you very much!
And in that spirit, here are three links to some footage of Placebo for anyone who hasn't seen them yet:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pk3PL_Cok7s&search=marc%20moulin
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kqKrw1Pklrs&search=marc%20moulin
http://youtube.com/watch?v=406lHWH505Q&search=marc%20moulin
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Wow, if you can hook us up with some more of this stuff in the future it would be great.
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
Aw, this is great. The Stark Reality clip on the 101 DVD has more of the beginning, but doesn't have the 45 promo clip ending. Who are the horn players, btw?
And thanks a bundle for "Testify"! I've been longing to see that. If there ever was a gratuitous graemlin-inducing clip, that would definetely be it. I won't do that, though. The footage speaks for itself. That whole ending with the band + folks dancing in silhouette is fucking amazing. I love this stuff!

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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
I've never seen this. super dope footage. thanks.
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Aw, this is great. The Stark Reality clip on the 101 DVD has more of the beginning, but doesn't have the 45 promo clip ending.
ah ok....that makes sense. Cause I have another Stark reality clip that is a bit longer, but I liked this one better. I'll work on some of the other clips when I can.
-peeJ
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
there's a guy at all the Detroit/Ann Arbor record shows that sells a DVD of Say Brother performances, I still need to cop that from him one of these days. I got an DVD he put together of Upbeat performances, that was fantastic (Funkadelic, Curtis Mayfield, Archie Bell & The Drells, Edwin Starr, Marvin & Tammi etc.). Most are lip synched which sucks but still great footage.
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Who are the horn players, btw?
Stanton Davis, trumpet (flugelhorn solos on the whole "Acting, Thinking, Feeling" piece, which this clip is basically the middle "Thinking" piece)
don't remember the 2nd trumpeter's name, nor the names of the trombone, alto, and tenor sax players
Carl Atkins is playing baritone sax
and, of course, Phil Morrison, bass, and Vinnie Johnson, drums.
$2.00 donation for a "Say Brother" 45 - thousands of them, want them or not
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there's a guy at all the Detroit/Ann Arbor record shows that sells a DVD of Say Brother performances, I still need to cop that from him one of these days. I got an DVD he put together of Upbeat performances, that was fantastic (Funkadelic, Curtis Mayfield, Archie Bell & The Drells, Edwin Starr, Marvin & Tammi etc.). Most are lip synched which sucks but still great footage.
I have that Upbeat DVD too - the lip-synching doesn't bother me, since I was weaned on shows like Soul Train and American Bandstand where nine times out of ten that's just the way these things were done. For me, it's just the novelty of seeing these great artists doing their thing, leventy-seven years ago.
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This stuff is fantastic and PJ...I have a DVD tower and ahhh, um, just saying, uh, y'know, not that you would...err, but with GBH actin' all stingy, mmmm.  Just sayin.
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pj4533
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Stanton Davis, trumpet (flugelhorn solos on the whole "Acting, Thinking, Feeling" piece, which this clip is basically the middle "Thinking" piece)
Ah, yes....the other video I have is of the whole piece (from episode 7, i think). Is the entire piece on the Stones Throw dvd? What was the situation with Stark Reality backing up other singers? I noticed Gwen Micheals...but I havn't watched the rest so I don't know if anyone else did as well.
-pj
btw: if anyone (Stones Throw/Monty) wants me to remove those, just shoot me a pm. not looking to step on anyones toes.
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Stanton Davis, trumpet (flugelhorn solos on the whole "Acting, Thinking, Feeling" piece, which this clip is basically the middle "Thinking" piece)
Ah, yes....the other video I have is of the whole piece (from episode 7, i think). Is the entire piece on the Stones Throw dvd? What was the situation with Stark Reality backing up other singers? I noticed Gwen Micheals...but I havn't watched the rest so I don't know if anyone else did as well.
-pj
btw: if anyone (Stones Throw/Monty) wants me to remove those, just shoot me a pm. not looking to step on anyones toes.
yeah, the Stones Throw 101 DVD has the whole piece on it - even repeated with a commentary
we did two pieces with Gwen on the same show
btw: so i put it on YouTube - TYVM!!!! http://www.montystark.com
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
thanks for postin this pj! mike
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wow, this is great to see, thanks
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
Cool stuff. WGBH put up a small website for "say brother" which has some clips on it. http://main.wgbh.org/saybrother/
Mosey down to the music section (M) for complete and total mind melt. http://main.wgbh.org/saybrother/subject.html#M
PS: Stanton Davis also did an LP called "ghetto mysticism," a jazz fusion album.
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Cool stuff. WGBH put up a small website for "say brother" which has some clips on it.
yep thats the site my friend directed me to for picking which videos I wanted. Apparently the problem is that not all the videos are on VHS yet, so I could only get a few of them (plus the James Brown special).
-pj
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Cool stuff. WGBH put up a small website for "say brother" which has some clips on it.
yep thats the site my friend directed me to for picking which videos I wanted. Apparently the problem is that not all the videos are on VHS yet, so I could only get a few of them (plus the James Brown special).
You're quite a ... Any chance on them putting out high res & complete versions of all of 'em?
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
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Cool stuff. WGBH put up a small website for "say brother" which has some clips on it. http://main.wgbh.org/saybrother/
Mosey down to the music section (M) for complete and total mind melt. http://main.wgbh.org/saybrother/subject.html#M
PS: Stanton Davis also did an LP called "ghetto mysticism," a jazz fusion album.
That's the one with "Funky Fried Tofu", right? I remember hearing that at Upskiboo's house – nice. Didn't he do an earlier private/small-press album in a more milesy style?
That Say Brother program listing is madness. Someone ought to unleash all this goodness.
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Ah, yes....the other video I have is of the whole piece (from episode 7, i think).
http://main.wgbh.org/saybrother/programs/sb_0031.html is the GBH page for the Spring Special - complete with a Curtis and the Impressions video
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this made me...excited to make music.
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
the stark reality footage is the only reason I bought that stones throw cd/dvd thing. Worth every penny too based on that.
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this made me...excited to make music.
Thanks so much pj & monty.. you have just justified the existence of the internet
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
i get a funny feeling that George Clinton might have been under the influence of illicit substances during the recording of this!!!
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i get a funny feeling that George Clinton might have been under the influence of illicit substances during the recording of this!!!
Like he has been since the 60s???
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...since the 50s
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
so i found a video tape of the first Hoagy Carmichael's Music Shop show, tried to edit it down under 10 minutes, and put it on YouTube. i know, some of you have been wondering how that show worked with Hoagy and the Stark Reality. don't laugh, remember the producer, Hoagy B., went on to produce Mister Rogers. btw, the little boy in the blue shirt is my 7 year old son, Lee.
also uploaded a complete version of Acting, Thinking, Feeling from the Say Brother show.
 Hoagy Carmichael's Music Shop 1970 VIDEO
 Acting Thinking Feeling 1968 VIDEO
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
I bought the Now cd yesterday to get "Acting/Thinking/Feeling". Amazing stuff, Monty!
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I bought the Now cd yesterday to get "Acting/Thinking/Feeling". Amazing stuff, Monty!
i dont think that tracks on there?
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so i found a video tape of the first Hoagy Carmichael's Music Shop show, tried to edit it down under 10 minutes, and put it on YouTube. i know, some of you have been wondering how that show worked with Hoagy and the Stark Reality. don't laugh, remember the producer, Hoagy B., went on to produce Mister Rogers. btw, the little boy in the blue shirt is my 7 year old son, Lee.
also uploaded a complete version of Acting, Thinking, Feeling from the Say Brother show.
Thanks Monty. Was having a stressed out day at work, stuck on Acting Thinking Feeling and now all life's troubles are passing me by.
Funny how well the music works in Hoagy's show. Reminded me that I miss presenters like that who dealt with kids without patronising the shit out of them. Hoagy was firm but fair.
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Mjukis
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Re: Say Brother Videos (Stark Reality related)
Yeah, on the double cd version of "Now". Bonus tracks on the second cd with the "1969" tracks. It's not on the vinyl though.
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Wow! Thanks Monty for the vids. This totally blew my mind. I didn't know too much about Carmichaels Show and the connection to the album. Dope stuff, thank you very much!!!
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Wow! Thanks Monty for the vids.
Dope stuff, thank you very much!!!
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!! ive been trying to imagine that show forever now. i cant beleive it. amazing, monty. wow.
how many episodes were there?
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Yeah, on the double cd version of "Now". Bonus tracks on the second cd with the "1969" tracks. It's not on the vinyl though.
wheres the best place to get the double cd?
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Monty
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!! ive been trying to imagine that show forever now. i cant beleive it. amazing, monty. wow.
how many episodes were there?
15 - each one a different Carmichael children's song.
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Yeah, on the double cd version of "Now". Bonus tracks on the second cd with the "1969" tracks. It's not on the vinyl though.
wheres the best place to get the double cd?
don't know how to buy one for dollars.... Dusty Groove doesn't import it. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008X9DT/202-1495566-9947857 http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/home/detail/-/hnum/7816491/iampartner/e76 http://www.musik4fun.com/cd-7816491-Now.html http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008X9DT/249-7183491-5357137 http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=15863
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Wow, it was great finally seeing this. I've got the original album, so I haven't been rushing to buy "Now" before, but come next payday I'm ordering that double Euro edition of the CD to get those extra tracks.
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