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Damn
surprised the hell out of me, I heard this on mp3.com
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Monty
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??? i can't dl that windows shit.... what did they use 
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wuh oh... time for some legal action!
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get money get money
mo money mo money
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plaese to sue the wackest group of all time Monty.
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you guys sur it's not cleared in the liners?
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I'm pretty sure monty would be aware of it, right?
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??? i can't dl that windows shit.... what did they use
i think it's 'Comrades'
its the one where the drumming gets crazy near the end , like some drum and bass shit..
maybe i was a bit vague on the description.. the song starts out with a bassline and some drums underneath with the most bugged out synth lines sprinkled on top.
I haven't seen the liner notes.. but wouldn't Monty know if they cleared the sample?
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SUE MONTY!!!!!!
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what's the name of the cd? i'll go buy it
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what's the name of the cd? i'll go buy it
song #14
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what's the name of the cd? i'll go buy it
You fixin' to be rich. Please invite Soulstrut to the island your about to buy.
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what's the name of the cd? i'll go buy it
song #14
heh... thanks -- that's the comrades bass line that i wrote and Phil Morrison played -- Sixtoo used it to great effect on Testimony -- sounds like they played it?
i'm not going to sue anybody, but i might put a mp3 of it on my site
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??? i can't dl that windows shit.... what did they use
i think it's 'Comrades'
its the one where the drumming gets crazy near the end , like some drum and bass shit..
maybe i was a bit vague on the description.. the song starts out with a bassline and some drums underneath with the most bugged out synth lines sprinkled on top.
I haven't seen the liner notes.. but wouldn't Monty know if they cleared the sample?
They have a pretty good band and get lots of musicians in the studio, are you sure it's not just replayed?
Usually you can replay stuff and not clear it if it's a short enough bit.
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what's the name of the cd? i'll go buy it
song #14
heh... thanks -- that's the comrades bass line that i wrote and Phil Morrison played -- Sixtoo used it to great effect on Testimony -- sounds like they played it?
i'm not going to sue anybody, but i might put a mp3 of it on my site
Found the liner notes on Barnes and Noble and no Phil. But Sting played on the LP, so maybe it's him!!!!! Weeeeeeeeeee! About 4 people played bass on that LP, so I would guess it was replayed. They are so big they would have to clear samples, their management would let them slip on that.
I will say the one thing I like about the Peas is the live band. They do a pretty good job.
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heh... thanks -- that's the comrades bass line that i wrote and Phil Morrison played -- Sixtoo used it to great effect on Testimony -- sounds like they played it?
i'm not going to sue anybody, but i might put a mp3 of it on my site
so...... i copped the CD
will.i.am evidently played the bass (compositionally, what's the diff?)
BUT there is a 4 bar sample of my fuzz vibes used 5 times in the song!!!
i'm on record as not objecting to samples
and i don't own anything anyway
Stones Throw owns it
and they don't pay for samples
so they don't sue when sampled
so, there you go
it sure would have been nice if BEP had given me a shout....
fuck it
i put a mp3 and a copy of the credits on my site
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Monty, i know you're down for sampleing and everything, but fuck it man, i'd be tryin to get that paycheck. Black eyed peas sell big, you could get some dough out of them
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and i don't own anything anyway
Stones Throw owns it
Don't you own your writing credits? If they give you 1/4 writers royaltiy it might add up. Just asking, all this music industry sharking never works the way I think it would or should. I would think a letter from a lawyer could get it straight with out any sueing or court cases.
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Black eyed peas sell big, you should at least give the label a call and get some dough out of them
I would think that Stone's Throw would try and get some credit for you and some publicity out of the deal. BEP can sell some serious numbers.
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Re: black eyed peas use Stark Reality on their new
can someone post the original track
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can someone post the original track
http://www.montystark.com
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Well I'd definitely have to say that they flipped it pretty well. But I would have like to see your crew get in the credits, monty. Or at least have received a promotional CD!
I think the shit sounds "hot" though.
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Don't you own your writing credits? If they give you 1/27 writers royaltiy it might add up. Just asking, all this music industry sharking never works the way I think it would or should. I would think a letter from a lawyer could get it straight with out any sueing or court cases.
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Stones Throw owns it
and they don't pay for samples
so they don't sue when sampled
so, there you go
what do you think would happen if Stones Throw sampled a BEP song? sayin.
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Stones Throw owns it
and they don't pay for samples
so they don't sue when sampled
so, there you go
what do you think would happen if Stones Throw sampled a BEP song? sayin.
heh... they'd be out of Monkey Business
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Stones Throw owns it
and they don't pay for samples
so they don't sue when sampled
so, there you go
what do you think would happen if Stones Throw sampled a BEP song? sayin.
heh... they'd be out of Monkey Business
Incredible, the original Monty Stark,... Ive been a vinyl junkie for several years now, finding your record would be the ultimate fix for me, my homeboy found this years ago before the internet, I remember we was hearing that record back then, it was mindblowing, the electric vibes, wow... anyway Ive been dreaming about finding the original ever since...!
About the sampling (music in general) or recreating, I gotta say Im all for it,...yeah I knows that money rules the world and all that, but music has allways been an inspiration between musicians, people influencing each other and I quess thats just part of musics evolution, part of the building blocks....you just influenced BEP and music continues to evolve...
Its allways good to get payed, no doubt, but being sampled is a kind of unmaterialistic recognition that will make your music live on forever...(guess thats pretty kool too...)
Congrats on making one hell of a dopeass record !
peace-
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thanks
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... Its allways good to get payed, no doubt, but being sampled is a kind of unmaterialistic recognition that will make your music live on forever...(guess thats pretty kool too...
yeah, i just wish BEP would ask me to play keys on the road with them
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Monty
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yeah, the more i listen to Audio Delite at Low Fidelity by the Black Eyed Peas, the more i love it
go buy
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Monty, you're very noble!
Why don't you try to contact them? They should be generous as well. The Black Eyed Peas earn millions and should give back a little after taking!
And please excuse that I've sold the original Stark Reality LP after only 1 month. I' ashamed!
Honestly, I didn't notice how good it is. I listened to the record a lot but I guess I underestimated the music. I wish I kept it! It's great! I'd trade any of my records for it now!
Is there anyone who wants to trade?
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Monty
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Why don't you try to contact them?
oh, man -- the last time i contacted a record company they wouldn't even reply, so i started calling them all kinds of m***** f*****s -- so when they finally replied to me calling them mfs, of course, they didn't like me, so they didn't pay me.
i guess this is how it works in the real world? i wouldn't know.
i'm just honored so many people will hear it.
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And please excuse that I've sold the original Stark Reality LP after only 1 month. I' ashamed!
Honestly, I didn't notice how good it is. I listened to the record a lot but I guess I underestimated the music. I wish I kept it! It's great! I'd trade any of my records for it now!
Is there anyone who wants to trade?
HUH?
oh
wait a minute
i just remembered-
yeah
i have 6 sealed copies of the Stark Reality OG laying around
got any LES HUMPHRIES or Some of those James Last records with the funky breaks?????
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And please excuse that I've sold the original Stark Reality LP after only 1 month. I' ashamed!
Honestly, I didn't notice how good it is. I listened to the record a lot but I guess I underestimated the music. I wish I kept it! It's great! I'd trade any of my records for it now!
Is there anyone who wants to trade?
HUH?
oh
wait a minute
i just remembered-
yeah
i have 6 sealed copies of the Stark Reality OG laying around
got any LES HUMPHRIES or Some of those James Last records with the funky breaks?????
HUH?
And you're trying to say what?
I'd trade my Rob Franken or Romano Mussolini for a mint copy. It's not like Stark Reality is an uncommon record for Soulstrut people. I bet there's at least 10-20 Strutters who own an OG!
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I just wanna add a little .02
Monty, you are a really cool dood. If that was my music and a group with a number 1 pop hit was sampling my shit, there is no question that I would send them a legal notice and get my due. Why? because they are in that 5% of groups that can actually afford to pay for sample clearance.
There is a world of difference between Black Eyed Peas and about 95% of producers on a Stones Throw / DefJux / Lex (insert your favorite insert indi backpack label here) type level. Someone that big should at least giving a share on the publishing... I would fathom a guess that they paid producer X for a beat which was hooked up from your jawn... and that they don't even know how big the sample is, and would probably be quick to cover thier asses, as it is a pretty big / numerous part sample.
If someone were to shut me down with a big lawsuit over a sample, I would, in all honesty not be able to make music. I am a guy in a bedroom with a sampler on an indi label. But some cats on a major, with actual radio hits? In the grand scheme of what it takes to make records like those recoup, or paying a couple of G's as a gesture, in comparison to thier marketing campaign budget ?... or even paying a share of the publishing on a song where they are using your stuff... its a different ball game. A point on a record like that would probably end up with a healthy cheque for you at some point.
I really really respect you man. It is so refresing to see a dood out here, completely in touch with what is up, and not to be money grubbing like that... it is very obvious that you are a music lover. I would very seriously re-consider your stance on this one, and have Egon contact them on your behalf, just for curiousity's sake... it certainly couldn't hurt.
And thanks for popping my name out there, I wonder what I could do to that shit now!
Heh.
Peace sir.
Sixtoo.
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... I am a guy in a bedroom with a sampler on an indi label...
i am a guy in a bedroom with the ability to improvise some heavy shit.
bless you, Six
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Limp Bizkit use bad medicine's tresspasser on their new LP.
uhm... don't ask me how i know that. 
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Hi Monty!
You are awesome.
-Anna
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You are awesome.
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Limp Bizkit use bad medicine's tresspasser on their new LP.
uhm... don't ask me how i know that.
PRODUCERS ALWAYS LIE?
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hats off...very very noble attitude in this World of Bitches.
you set off an example to follow right here...i wash this thread could be printed in the next Scratch Magazine or something like that. Mr Wang, please...
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what's the name of the cd? i'll go buy it
song #14
heh... thanks -- that's the comrades bass line that i wrote and Phil Morrison played -- Sixtoo used it to great effect on Testimony -- sounds like they played it?
i'm not going to sue anybody, but i might put a mp3 of it on my site
so...... i copped the CD
will.i.am evidently played the bass (compositionally, what's the diff?)
BUT there is a 4 bar sample of my fuzz vibes used 5 times in the song!!!
i'm on record as not objecting to samples
and i don't own anything anyway
Stones Throw owns it
and they don't pay for samples
so they don't sue when sampled
so, there you go
it sure would have been nice if BEP had given me a shout....
fuck it
i put a mp3 and a copy of the credits on my site
If you own the publishing on that song you deserve a cut. I've cleared many samples and unfortunately most artists don't want to give the producers any cut of the publishing. You should at least get 25-50% of the publishing on that record. BiG Yaper! BEP makes a shitload of money and I'm kinda shocked this wasn't taken care of.
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nodbody here would object to you sueing the fug outta these dudes Monty. I mean not even a shout out???!?!?! I'd reccomend searching for past threads we've had here about these jokers, to get an idea of the general consensus about "BEP". Gopher it. Just sue.
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if one group needs to get bitch slapped in and out of court its black eyed peas. at worst you can get a new car out of this monty. take em to the fuckin cleaners.
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autez
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can someone post the original track
http://www.montystark.com
whats the song name? all i see is the bep track on there. im talkin bout your song that they sampled. btw i agree with those who say get that money. donate it to charity or somethin if you must but get it out of those dudes hands.
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As much as I hate Black Eyed Peas (seriously, I can't fucking stand them) I respect Monty's decision not to pursue legal recourse. I've never been involved in a lawsuit, but I imagine that it's a major pain in the ass, no matter what side of right you're on. Also, I think his attitude towards sampling is very forward-thinking and respectable, and it doesn't need to change just because BEP makes more money than Sixtoo.
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can someone post the original track
http://www.montystark.com
whats the song name? all i see is the bep track on there. im talkin bout your song that they sampled. btw i agree with those who say get that money. donate it to charity or somethin if you must but get it out of those dudes hands.
it's the song right above: the one and only Comrades
if you download the Audio Delite mp3 you should see this description: bass line written by Monty Stark, played by Phil Morrison, originally for Hoagy Carmichael's Comrades, and the 4 bar fuzz vibe sample used 5 times here is also by Monty Stark
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As much as I hate Black Eyed Peas (seriously, I can't fucking stand them) I respect Monty's decision not to pursue legal recourse. I've never been involved in a lawsuit, but I imagine that it's a major pain in the ass, no matter what side of right you're on. Also, I think his attitude towards sampling is very forward-thinking and respectable, and it doesn't need to change just because BEP makes more money than Sixtoo.
If Stones Throw own the publishing rights then legal action may not be straight forward. But I sincerely hope that Monty gets recognition for the Stark Reality: the Peas are taking that music to a new audience and they should publicly acknowledge the contribution and return the favour. All power to Stark Reality and to you, Monty- it shows that music resonates as strongly as ever 30 years later.
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no disrespect to you, monty, but what are you doing selling your songs!!?!
let us know what egon has to say, you really should take some kind of action on this even if it means just being credited, recieving some kind of recording / mastering royalties...
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Like someone said up on the thread, Stones Throw don't sue them maybe because their own artists don't clear samples!
I made an interview of Alain Mion from Cortex some monthes ago and for sure the guy was really upset with people who sample his shit! He sued a guy called Bob Sinclar who used one of his track some years ago.. and won.
So I scratched my head to know if I would tell him that Madlib used a big sample out of the "Troupeau Bleu" album.. and I finally shut my mouth because Egon is my man and I don't want to cause trouble to his label..
What you strut people would have done on the same case??
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The song would be the same with or without those electric vibes. There's nothing special about that particular composition. They have the permission from Stones Throw. So Monty's SOL. 
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When I read this thread I came to the follwoing conclusion. You (Monty) should send him a letter from your lawyer. Fuck the samples of the electric vibes, thats the cherry on top but not the main thing.
You said they replayed your bassline. This means that you got publishing rights on that track they did. You got the right to get that so no one from the BEP would be pissed about that.
I work as a music journalist and I interviewed Will.I.Am 2 times and he is one of the nicest guys that I had to interveiw in more than 10 years now. He really loves music so there would be no problem with him about that topic. Dont know about there management but he personally would do anything to solve that problem.
Your goal should not be to end with them in front of the court, your goal should be a out of court settlement, as you said, to go on tour with them or to play some songs together with them.
And here it is the same, I cant think of one reason why Will.I.Am wouldnt do that. He worked with Sergio Mendez so why shouldnt he work with you ???
Besides that, the sueing for publishing rights would have nothing to do with Stones Throw, so they would be out of the picture.
To make things clear for all the misunderstanding peeople her:
I'm not a great fan of there new music, but Will.I.Am got mad love for HipHop as you can see when you listen to his record "Must Be 21" on BBE Records and the BEP songs before this female singer became a part of BEP.
Besides that, I prefer them on the charts more than I would like to have the Ying Yang twins there. And at the end, when I can TALK to a person about music instead of asking questions and trying to get something more out of an artist than "Naa-mean", "Na-m-sain", "Ya-knuw" I can apreciate that a little bit more than getting pissed of artist that dont wont to do interviews because they prefer to play domino with they homies or the next order at Mcdonalds is more important than the promotion for there own music where they make money out of it to pay Mcdonalds. A lot of artist are running around and saying there lable is not doing enough promo for them, OK but promo is more than paying ads, it is also how you interact with your audience at concerts and how do you interact with the people who work in the media. Will.I.Am is a professional and so he will handle this situation in a way that everybody is a winner at the end.
Peace
Hawkeye
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The Breaks record on Stark Reality & the track "Comrades":
http://www.the-breaks.com/perl/artist.pl?id=1716
If you would like to listen to that Black Moses cut "Oh god" that also uses this sample, check:
http://stage.vitaminic.co.uk/main/black_moses/singles/
Love that Black Moses record.. a forgotten indie-classic from sweden, mid 90's if im not mistaking.. also listen to the track "going nowhere" (a beautiful hypnotic jazz mastercut...) while you still up on that site.. some real artistry.. nothing like BEP..
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@ Robert Murt
I had done the same, when I do interveiws I aks about sampling but I dont name trakcs or artists who sampled them. Most time they know about it anyway, but they dont move anything to do something about it. But I dont have to give them hints to any person who sampled them.
To be honest, the posting you did is enough, he must only google about himself and there he got the info.
It's the same with www.the-breaks.com. There is a lot of potential beef there, but no ones using it.
In germany, graffiti police task forces are surfing on websites that are connected to the graffiti scene to check out if someone is saying something about a big writer and naming connections or a clear name of those. Thats how ugly it can get to share informations on the web.
But anyway, at the end of the day, I'm not responisble for anybody exceppt my loved ones and myself. I'm trying to be carefull but I'm not perfect so if I'm giving out hints it is not done to hurt anybody.
I can understand producers who hate the-breaks.com but otherwise, the should stop sampling if they cant handle the consequences.
Peace
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... just found out that the publisher just found out -- (a founding member of ASCAP) -- so, if anything legal is going to be done, i guess it will be done.
from a publishing standpoint, i was the arranger-for-hire who wrote the parts in question. so, i shouldn't have to get anything even if somebody has to pay.
(and Phil, the bass player, was just a musician)
... the real world.
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... Its allways good to get payed, no doubt, but being sampled is a kind of unmaterialistic recognition that will make your music live on forever...(guess thats pretty kool too...
yeah, i just wish BEP would ask me to play keys on the road with them
Monty their studio is on the northeast corner of Glendale and Glenhurst in LA. The second floor. Next time you are in LA, knock on their door.
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... just found out that the publisher just found out -- (a founding member of ASCAP) -- so, if anything legal is going to be done, i guess it will be done.
from a publishing standpoint, i was the arranger-for-hire who wrote the parts in question. so, i shouldn't have to get anything even if somebody has to pay.
(and Phil, the bass player, was just a musician)
... the real world.
A bunch of weasels.
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... just found out that the publisher just found out -- (a founding member of ASCAP) -- so, if anything legal is going to be done, i guess it will be done.
from a publishing standpoint, i was the arranger-for-hire who wrote the parts in question. so, i shouldn't have to get anything even if somebody has to pay.
(and Phil, the bass player, was just a musician)
... the real world.
man....damn. Monty, you should at least get a credit!! Its basicly your record! I mean, I know hoagy carmicle probably has the writers credit and everything, but is that really how it works? Thats messed up. Seems like the whole music industry is designed to only keep like 5 people paid. The rest of us motherfuckers get to stay broke.
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... Its allways good to get payed, no doubt, but being sampled is a kind of unmaterialistic recognition that will make your music live on forever...(guess thats pretty kool too...
yeah, i just wish BEP would ask me to play keys on the road with them
Monty their studio is on the northeast corner of Glendale and Glenhurst in LA. The second floor. Next time you are in LA, knock on their door.
man, i'm the world's worst door to door salesman.
i'm already old, and never ever in my life has anybody ever given me anything from me knocking on someone's door.
my bad
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... Its allways good to get payed, no doubt, but being sampled is a kind of unmaterialistic recognition that will make your music live on forever...(guess thats pretty kool too...
yeah, i just wish BEP would ask me to play keys on the road with them
Monty their studio is on the northeast corner of Glendale and Glenhurst in LA. The second floor. Next time you are in LA, knock on their door.
man, i'm the world's worst door to door salesman.
i'm already old, and never ever in my life has anybody ever given me anything from me knocking on someone's door.
my bad
Monty, do what YOU feel is right.
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Monty, do what YOU feel is right.
hahahaha... NOTHING (except stay at home and make living music that may prepare me to bother to record in the future)
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hahahaha... NOTHING (except stay at home and make living music that may prepare me to bother to record in the future)
the stark reality of stark reality.
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hey monty you should just leave it alone. you have mass talent bro so what if they stole it its not like they are putting out starks reality albums or anything i mean yea its a song but it would just go in the whole thing about getting sued for scratching a hickup ignore the media keep doin what you do and well keep lovin you
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Monty is dope. I wish more people thought like him. All this sample clearance bullshit has stifled musical development to a certain extent. People have always "stole" tunes and reworked them. I'm surprised to see such greedy attitudes at soulstrut (not really)  If everybody sampled and got rich then there would be no problem. No hustle havin' muthafuckas. Get your own money.
Nobody thinks Stones Throw's already cashed in on the sample? LOL You never know. 
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Nobody thinks Stones Throw's already cashed in on the sample? LOL You never know.
hahahhahaha.... i hope they have - that would be just like them wouldn't it? - those guys are my hommieeees
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Nobody thinks Stones Throw's already cashed in on the sample? LOL You never know.
hahahhahaha.... i hope they have - that would be just like them wouldn't it? - those guys are my hommieeees
Good peoples.
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for real, cheers for your progressive sampling approval stance.
that is genuine love for music period.
peace
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hey monty you should just leave it alone. you have mass talent bro so what if they stole it its not like they are putting out starks reality albums or anything i mean yea its a song but it would just go in the whole thing about getting sued for scratching a hickup ignore the media keep doin what you do and well keep lovin you
CURT
Will.I.Am? that you?
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Bsides
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Monty is dope. I wish more people thought like him. All this sample clearance bullshit has stifled musical development to a certain extent. People have always "stole" tunes and reworked them. I'm surprised to see such greedy attitudes at soulstrut (not really) If everybody sampled and got rich then there would be no problem. No hustle havin' muthafuckas. Get your own money.
Nobody thinks Stones Throw's already cashed in on the sample? LOL You never know.
I used to think like that too. But that was cause I used to sample all the time. Then I thought about how Id feel on the other end.
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Then I thought about how Id feel on the other end.
I would just like to point out that this would be a time where a well-placed AYO! might actually be funny, and KingMoist is nowhere to be found.
PS Monty, you're a principled man. Respect.
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... So Monty's SOL.
sorry to disappoint you, Fatback - the dust hasn't settled, the smoke hasn't cleared, and i'm sure i shouldn't be saying anything at all this early in the process, but i've heard from the publisher side and i've heard from the record company side.... and it appears to me that will.i.am must be a SR fan and orchestrated this whole "un-cleared sample" business on purpose so we would get more $$$ - amazing!
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... You said they replayed your bassline...
no - it was just pitched up
that bass line isn't notes - it's Phil Morrison's soul - even he couldn't play it like that again.
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no - it was just pitched up
that bass line isn't notes - it's Phil Morrison's soul - even he couldn't play it like that again.
Reunion? SR opening for BEP?
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" and it appears to me that will.i.am must be a SR fan and orchestrated this whole "un-cleared sample" business on purpose so we would get more $$$ - amazing! "
I really hope that is the case Monty.
You deserve it.
6.dos
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The irony is that you had to buy BEP's album. You should have at least illegally downloaded it.
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and it appears to me that will.i.am must be a SR fan and orchestrated this whole "un-cleared sample" business on purpose so we would get more $$$ - amazing!
THIS IS DOPE AS HELL!!!!
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what's the name of the cd? i'll go buy it
You fixin' to be rich. Please invite Soulstrut to the island your about to buy.
ok
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wow, I stayed away from this thread for a long time and reading it I gotta say I can only hope to one day have the same sort of patience and postive state of mind that you have.
Like many other diggers with a jones for finding records I've contacted artists and gotten some bitter responses, what you've written in this post is the total and complete opposite of that. Bless you for being that dude.
By the way, Dizzy and I decided we may just have to drag your ass down to San Diego sometime soon. Don't think I've forgot about the Gordon Lightfoot cover project. Times-a-wastin.
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You fixin' to be rich. Please invite Soulstrut to see the Terror Squad pendant you're about to buy.
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Dizzy and I decided we may just have to drag your ass down to San Diego sometime soon.
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Like many other diggers with a jones for finding records I've contacted artists and gotten some bitter responses, what you've written in this post is the total and complete opposite of that. Bless you for being that dude.
co-sign ... i dont know you at all mr monty but you have to be one of the coolest and most knowledgeable musicians ive ever had the chance to learn from... much respect due to you sir.
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Don't know exactly how I surfed onto this page, but whatever happened with this? Any loot ever come out of B.E.P.'s pockets?
You've got me spendin'...
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Don't know exactly how I surfed onto this page, but whatever happened with this? Any loot ever come out of B.E.P.'s pockets?
You've got me spendin'...
spend away - BEP paid
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Don't know exactly how I surfed onto this page, but whatever happened with this? Any loot ever come out of B.E.P.'s pockets?
You've got me spendin'...
spend away - BEP paid
Nice one! Good to see they're sharing the wealth.
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Don't know exactly how I surfed onto this page, but whatever happened with this? Any loot ever come out of B.E.P.'s pockets?
You've got me spendin'...
spend away - BEP paid
Care to tell us the range of their payment?
6 Figures?
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Monty
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yeah, it cost them 6 figures, may reach 7 - to Hoagy Bix Carmichael who just happens to be the son of the guy who wrote "Comrades". (of course, BEP didn't sample anything Hoagy wrote. they sampled parts that Phil and I wrote, but we were just "for-hire".)
5 figures to Stones Throw who gave it to me, and i split that with the band members.
Cage, on the other hand, will not pay ST, and the song is my composition. so, what do you Strutters suggest i do now?
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yeah, it cost them 6 figures, may reach 7 - to Hoagy Bix Carmichael who just happens to be the son of the guy who wrote "Comrades". (of course, BEP didn't sample anything Hoagy wrote. they sampled parts that Phil and I wrote, but we were just "for-hire".)
5 figures to Stones Throw who gave it to me, and i split that with the band members.
Cage, on the other hand, will not pay ST, and the song is my composition. so, what do you Strutters suggest i do now?
Glad to hear you got some residules. That's rad.
I can't imagine that Cage has all that much loot though. Not that that is an excuse though.
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yeah, it cost them 6 figures, may reach 7 - to Hoagy Bix Carmichael who just happens to be the son of the guy who wrote "Comrades". (of course, BEP didn't sample anything Hoagy wrote. they sampled parts that Phil and I wrote, but we were just "for-hire".)
5 figures to Stones Throw who gave it to me, and i split that with the band members.
Cage, on the other hand, will not pay ST, and the song is my composition. so, what do you Strutters suggest i do now?
Wow. This one is for the Annals of Sampling.
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yeah, it cost them 6 figures, may reach 7 - to Hoagy Bix Carmichael who just happens to be the son of the guy who wrote "Comrades". (of course, BEP didn't sample anything Hoagy wrote. they sampled parts that Phil and I wrote, but we were just "for-hire".)
5 figures to Stones Throw who gave it to me, and i split that with the band members.
Aint' that a bitch
But who could've imagined, 30+ years ago, how things would develop...
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yeah, it cost them 6 figures, may reach 7 - to Hoagy Bix Carmichael who just happens to be the son of the guy who wrote "Comrades". (of course, BEP didn't sample anything Hoagy wrote. they sampled parts that Phil and I wrote, but we were just "for-hire".)
5 figures to Stones Throw who gave it to me, and i split that with the band members.
Aint' that a bitch
But who could've imagined, 30+ years ago, how things would develop...
Damn.
Monty, you are an inspiration to us all, good to see you got some bank.
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I can't imagine that Cage has all that much loot though. Not that that is an excuse though.
Def Jux would probably be happy to pay mechanicals to my publisher. that's no big deal, except my publisher has either lost me, or the publishing has reverted to me. to find out, i would have to hire a lawyer who would want more than it's probably worth...
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monty, was that true that will.i.am purposefully used the unlicensed sample so that the label would be forced to cough up more money? that's diabolically admirable.
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monty, was that true that will.i.am purposefully used the unlicensed sample so that the label would be forced to cough up more money? that's diabolically admirable.
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Damn. now i gotta rethink my opinion of Will.i.am
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Damn. now i gotta rethink my opinion of Will.i.am everything
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props to that
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used to
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props to that
co-sign.
dude should stick to forcing record companies to use unlicensed samples in order to get them to cough up more money to dope artists such as Monty....rather than rapping.
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if he wasn't rapping, there'd be no money
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if he wasn't rapping, there'd be no money
Solid!
But this does put a side step to my whole thought of BEP being the problem with hip hop. I guess I'll just put will.i.am on my "He's a kewl dude" list.
Glad you got urs tho. You really deserve it.
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I can't imagine that Cage has all that much loot though. Not that that is an excuse though.
Def Jux would probably be happy to pay mechanicals to my publisher. that's no big deal, except my publisher has either lost me, or the publishing has reverted to me. to find out, i would have to hire a lawyer who would want more than it's probably worth...
Like I said earlier in this thread, what a crooked fucked up business.
You are golden for sharing with the band.
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Wow I forgot about this one!
Hey do I get a free copy of Stark Reality for pointing out the sample to you??
 
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I can't imagine that Cage has all that much loot though. Not that that is an excuse though.
Def Jux would probably be happy to pay mechanicals to my publisher. that's no big deal, except my publisher has either lost me, or the publishing has reverted to me. to find out, i would have to hire a lawyer who would want more than it's probably worth...
Like I said earlier in this thread, what a crooked fucked up business.
You are golden for sharing with the band.
don't despair - i didn't have to hire a lawyer after all. i'm now represented by BOULDER HEAVE MUSIC (BMI)
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Wow I forgot about this one!
Hey do I get a free copy of Stark Reality for pointing out the sample to you??
you must have the music to have known about it in the first place - how 'bout a t-shirt? a CD? a blow job?
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catalist
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Wow I forgot about this one!
Hey do I get a free copy of Stark Reality for pointing out the sample to you??
you must have the music to have known about it in the first place - how 'bout a t-shirt? a CD? a blow job?
Well I don't have the OG, thanks to stones throw i heard the goodness there.
t-shirt? - sure! a cd? - sure! a blow job? -    
all seriousness though, you don't need to give me anything. however, if stones throw themselves want to send me a free stark reality t shirt I am down.
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if he wasn't rapping, there'd be no money
Rapping? Are they "rapping" really? 
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I have to declare this the best thread I've ever read! It had all the emotions, plus a happy ending!
I gotta say, you are an awesome dude monty! What a zen approach! And look how it all ended up!
And I have to say Will's actions are pretty solid. Wow, what an emotional rollercoaster!
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I have to declare this the best thread I've ever read! It had all the emotions, plus a happy ending!
I gotta say, you are an awesome dude monty! What a zen approach! And look how it all ended up!
And I have to say Will's actions are pretty solid. Wow, what an emotional rollercoaster!
I am not on here all the time, so I hadn't read any of this yet. I read it all at once and it was pretty entertaining. I was looking at page two or 3 and things were getting rolling with contacting the BEPs and I saw that there were 8 pages to the post. It was like I had a whole season of a tv show on dvd and if I really wanted to, I could power through and reach the conclusion.
Anyways, Monty, I have a lot of respect for you as a musician and your stance towards sampling. It's pretty rare to hear a story like this. The fact that you know people sampled you and you can say things like sixtoo "used it to great effect" is so nice to hear. I think most artists hear the cash register sound before they even consider listening to what the new artist has done with the sample.
Congratulations on the payment. you deserve it.
Will.I.Am has been earning more and more points in my book lately.
Monty's attitude: 
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Re: black eyed peas use Stark Reality on their new
can someone please to essplain how to ghostbump? thxbai.
b/w
RIP monty.
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LaserWolf
Boscoe or Death
Reged: Nov 06 2003
Posts: 8347
Loc: Night Owl Record Show
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Re: black eyed peas use Stark Reality on their new
Quote:
i am a guy in a bedroom with the ability to improvise some heavy shit.
bless you
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LaserWolf
Boscoe or Death
Reged: Nov 06 2003
Posts: 8347
Loc: Night Owl Record Show
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Re: black eyed peas use Stark Reality on their new
Was Monty Buddhist?
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Grandfather
Medium Raer
Reged: Nov 14 2005
Posts: 1722
Loc: Terrible Floorplan
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Re: black eyed peas use Stark Reality on their new
Amazing thread.
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Grandfather
Medium Raer
Reged: Nov 14 2005
Posts: 1722
Loc: Terrible Floorplan
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Re: black eyed peas use Stark Reality on their new
I just read all of it.
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shawnald_reagan
Dollar Bin Scourer
Reged: Jun 28 2008
Posts: 459
Loc: they won't rest until I'm gay
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Re: black eyed peas use Stark Reality on their new
Wow. i completely missed this thread all those years ago. Great read and a great reminder of a wonderful human. RIP Monty
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Cosmophonic
Medium Raer
Reged: Nov 01 2003
Posts: 1331
Loc: ?جø¬?s & ?جø¬?s & ?جø¬?s & ?جø¬?s & ?جø¬?s & ?جø¬?s & ?جø¬?s & ?جø¬?s & ?جø¬?s &
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Re: black eyed peas use Stark Reality on their new
Great re-read.
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JectWon
Dollar Bin Scourer
Reged: Jun 22 2007
Posts: 351
Loc: The beach
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Re: black eyed peas use Stark Reality on their new
Dang it! Reading this made my cry like a mug.
RIP
"i am a guy in a bedroom with the ability to improvise some heavy shit"
 Seriously though, I'd like to have that on a shirt...fwiw.
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djsheep
Mike Henderson's Thong
Reged: Nov 01 2003
Posts: 4566
Loc: You dont get it.. I dont collect records, i collect samples.. I only have about 60 records And they are all fire ass samples ready to start some hot shit..
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Re: black eyed peas use Stark Reality on their new
wow. memories. rest in peace Monty.
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Bapt
calmos amigo.
Reged: Apr 12 2005
Posts: 3066
Loc: You people have shockingly bad taste. Seriously.
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wow. memories. rest in peace Monty.
^^
Someone erased my message on his facebook wall...
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